Joe Heath, Don Siegel debate Hydrofracking
At Temple Beth Shalom, 18 Patsy Lane, Jamesville, NY 13078--open to the public--breakfast at 10:15 and debate at 10:45. Each opens with 10 to 15 minutes, then 5 min rebuttal each and then questions from the floor
When | Sun Oct 10 10:15am – 11:45am Eastern Time |
Where | Jamesville, NY (map) |
Dr. Siegel is a hydrologist who says HVHHF is "safe" based on good science:
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2010/05/some_scientists_sat_hydrofrack.html
Here is my letter to him:
Dear Dr. Siegel,
My understanding of the scientific method is
that scientific models used for prediction is based on data.
How much water?
This industry paper says that by a "very conservative estimate"
that there will be 81,000 wells in NY:
http://www.bcnys.org/whatsnew/2010/nysupliftstudyR.pdf
This page says that in PA they are using 4-7 M. gallons per well.
http://wri.eas.cornell.edu/gas_wells_water_use.html
Doing the math, this yields about 300B to 600B gallons
which is consumptive use. Perhaps 70% stays in the ground
and the 30% that comes back is made highly toxic.
100% of the 300-600B gallons is essentially removed from
the hydrological cycle. 70% is permanent,
and the 30% flowback can be expected to be reclaimed via
evaporation over some unknown number of years.
You claim this activity is safe.
So my question to you is, what is the source of your data
for your models?
To my understanding, consumptive use of this much water
has never been done before in the history of the planet.
Considering multi-vector water contamination has taken
place in nearly every place where HVHHF has been done,
wouldn't the precautionary principle apply?
Thanks,+Best Regards,
BH
My understanding of the scientific method is
that scientific models used for prediction is based on data.
How much water?
This industry paper says that by a "very conservative estimate"
that there will be 81,000 wells in NY:
http://www.bcnys.org/whatsnew/2010/nysupliftstudyR.pdf
This page says that in PA they are using 4-7 M. gallons per well.
http://wri.eas.cornell.edu/gas_wells_water_use.html
Doing the math, this yields about 300B to 600B gallons
which is consumptive use. Perhaps 70% stays in the ground
and the 30% that comes back is made highly toxic.
100% of the 300-600B gallons is essentially removed from
the hydrological cycle. 70% is permanent,
and the 30% flowback can be expected to be reclaimed via
evaporation over some unknown number of years.
You claim this activity is safe.
So my question to you is, what is the source of your data
for your models?
To my understanding, consumptive use of this much water
has never been done before in the history of the planet.
Considering multi-vector water contamination has taken
place in nearly every place where HVHHF has been done,
wouldn't the precautionary principle apply?
Thanks,+Best Regards,
BH
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