let's say we get the DEC to agree to a 2,000 foot setback
from water wells, principle aquifers, etc.
Will that make you happy?
It should NOT.
FIRST: We have TWO credible cases of water contamination
4,000' from drilling and/or fracking.
1) Franklin Forks, Susquehanna County PA,
2) Paradise Road, Terry Twp, Bradford County PA
Several homes affected in both cases.
NEXT: In Oct 2011, Carter Strickland, Commissioner of the NYC DEP
argues for a SEVEN MILE setback from NYC aqueducts due to the
risks of micro-seismic events:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb_nHIsjsd0#t=2h25m
LASTLY: I again want to point out the following things about water sources.
1) There is NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS for any of the following terms:
- Primary Aquifer
- Principle Aquifer
- Sole Source Aquifer
- Filtration Avoidance Determination / Unfiltered Water Supply
protections to water sources for places with higher population densities.
2) Only the term WATERSHED has a scientific and geological definition.
3) The NYC WATERSHED has been promised a 2,000 setback in the SGEIS
(although this is NOT in the regs, which suggests that the permit conditions
could be modified based on a site-specific review by DEC --> BAD IDEA)
4) A 2,000 foot setback from a watershed is the START of a good idea,
however the incidents at Franklin Forks PA and Terry Twp PA
indicate this should be AT LEAST 4,000 feet, and perhaps SEVEN MILES (37,000 ft).
5) Since EVERY SQUARE INCH of NY State is upstream of somebody's water supply,
then If EVERY NY state watershed was given a ONE FOOT setback, then this would
be a one foot setback from the state line, i.e. a BAN ON FRACKING IN NY.
See also: http://williamahuston.blogspot.com/p/ny-pa-watersheds-map.html
and http://williamahuston.blogspot.com/2013/01/testimony-by-bh-1102013-ny-assembly.html
On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Marie McRae <mmmcrae@juno.com> wrote:
Implications here for any ground water source!MarieWE were told the fractures extend for a "few hundred feet" by the folks at NYIOGA a few years back...From: Kelly BraniganSubject: [sustainableotsego] Fwd: FERC: Frackers Admit Frack Can Go Up to 2,000 Feet---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Chip Northrup" <northrup49@gmail.com>
Date: Feb 5, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: FERC: Frackers Admit Frack Can Go Up to 2,000 Feet
To: "Brian Brock" <precambrianbrock@gmail.com>
AddedThanks - fracking amazing . . . the implications of setbacks from aquifers, springs, deep water wells, drilling in karst - amazing
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Brian Brock <precambrianbrock@gmail.com> wrote:The FERC orders of certificates for Dominion's 2,000' frac setback around their underground gas storages
Woodhull pool in Stuben County NY: http://www.ferc.gov/whats-new/comm-meet/2011/111711/C-2.pdf
Sabinsville pool in Tioga Co. PA: http://www.ferc.gov/EventCalendar/Files/20121130155259-CP12-59-000.pdf
Brian
P.S. Does it get better than this?On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Richard Averett <raverett@frontier.com> wrote:
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From: Chip Northrup northrup49@gmail.comAnd the frackers admit itWhich is 2X what Cuomo proposes as a separation of a horizontal from an aquiferAnd 4X what Cuomo proposes as a setback from a water wellAnd infinity from what Cuomo proposes as a setback from a property line.Because Cuomo does not propose any setback of a horizontal lateral from a property line.. .
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