Hon. Chairman
Robert K. Sweeney
Committee
on Environmental Conservation
|
Hon. Chairman
Richard N. Gottfried
Committee
on Health
|
Hon.
Chairman Charles D. Lavine
Assembly Administrative Regulations Review Commission
|
Hon. Commissioner Martens Department of Environmental Conservation |
Public
Hearing on DEC's proposed High Volume Hydraulic Fracturing
regulations
Comments by William
HustonJan. 10, 2012
Commissioner Martens,
Chairmen and Members of these Committees:
Thank you for holding this hearing,
Special recognition to you all for giving this matter your attention
and listening to the people's concern
Science is great! // But Science is not complete or infallable
- Concert of Concurrence
(industry, academics, environmentalists, DEC/Governor):
"We should Trust the Science.
- Caution:
Cult of Creditionalism works against both Science and Democracy
- Science is like Democracy.
- Democracy began as a regection
of (Royal) class
- We can rule ourselves!
- We can "choose our own governors and cashier them for
misconduct"
-- Edward Price, quoted by Thomas Paine, Rights of Man - Science rejects the revealed truth and special class of the clergy
- We can figure this out ourselves!
- Appeal to REASON of the individual self, the conscious observer.
- This "appeal to peer-reviewed science" as being final arbiter
of truth actual attempts to foster CLASS which is against basic
scientific principles.
- Class and Dogma => rejected by both Science and Democracy
- Egalitarianism, Authority of
Reason of the Conscious Observer, the common citizen.
- YES! Science is a useful tool!
The belief in the absolute authority of science, is DOGMA
- This works against the basic principle of science:
- Appeal to the reason of
the individual observer.
- Anyone who believes in the Infallibility,
Completeness,
or Certainty of Science
has not been keeping up with the literature. (Heisenberg, Gödel)
- Science sometimes doesn't know
what is right. (Thomas Kuhn, Structure
of
Scientific
Revolutions)
- Science sometimes talks in meaningless GIBBERISH. (Kurt Gödel, Incompleteness Theorems)
- Science is based on unprovable axioms. (David Hume)
- Science truths are Falsifiable. (Karl Popper's Criterion)
- Science
cannot
make
predictions w/o models, based on data
- The ability to destroy and entomb
NOMINALLY hundreds of billions of
gallons
of our precious drinking water has never been possessed by humans ever before the history of planet earth. - These
data
do
not
exist!
- Without these data, science is CLUELESS.
We cannot move ahead with this activity.
are RAMPANT in Pennsylvania
- Home
are
being
ABANDONED
/
NOT
LIVEABLE
See Appendix 1: MLS from HELL.
- Lots
of
anecdotal
data
of
harms. Check the "List
of
the Harmed", now at over 750 families:
http://pennsylvaniaallianceforcleanwaterandair.wordpress.com/the-list/
=> Dozens who are NOT on this list
- e.g.,
Patty
Klotz
of
Warren
Center Pennsylvania
\
This is the stuff drained off the well site into a creek in a glen behind her house.
Her dog drank this, had seizures and died.
Warren Center PA: Fracking Flowback dumped on the road outside Patty Klotz' house.
Warren Center PA drains North into Nichols and Waverly NY
Looking out Pat Klotz' front window, at a drill rig ~500' away.
NY regs allow drill pads to be constructed 500' from a house.
Special protections for certain watersheds in the proposed regs
based on CLASS and NOT SCIENCE
- "Filtration Avoidance
Determination" for the NYC watershed
- Basis "Our water is better quality than yours, so ours deserves special
protection"
- The distinction of a principle aquifer and a primary aquifer is based on class.
- Arbitrary distinctions, based purely on population density.
The NY Regulations do nothing to protect NY Citizens from
impacts going on upstream in Pennsylvania.
- When
you
are
looking
at
the
source of one's
drinking water in NY,
you should be talking about one's Aquifers, plus the ENTIRE UPSTREAM DRAINAGE BASIN, (aka, "Watershed")
(cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drainage_basin )
- Industry and the
Environmentalists all agree the greatest
area
of
concern
in
the
short
term is the surface waters, not just the aquifers.
- NYC properly asserts police
powers over its
Watershed
- There are presently 98
inconventional wells INSIDE the watershed of the City of Binghamton:
- There are several sites of KNOWN CONTAMINATION inside Binghamtons' watershed
- Franklin Forks (Franklin Twp) PA -- many sites
- Depue 8H failed casing
- Heavenly Angels Store and Restaurant -- arsenic, barium, other heavy metals in water
- Mannings' well, explosive levels of methane, heavy metal contamination
- Silver Lake Township: four blowouts, spilling thousands of gallons of drilling muds
- Black water in Great Bend
Borough -- several homes during drilling of the Baptist Hill
well
- The Drilling and Fracking going
on inside Binghamton's watershed, and these contamination incidents
would be considered a FELONY, likely TERRORISM and would deserve a
POLICE POWERS RESPONSE within the NYC watershed.
- 190,000 NYers presently AT RISK from upstream drilling operations in Pennsylvania
- 270,000 NYers presently AT RISK downstream from Landfills and
Leachate Fields
of contaminated drill cuttings from PA
- Total 400,000 NYers presently at risk.
- A ban within,
and 4000' setback from a watershed=> a good idea!
- NOTE
WELL: NYC/SYR
4000' setback is in the SGEIS, NOT IN THE REGULATIONS.
- Thus
can be overridden with a site-specific EIS.
- On
2-2012 The 19 members of the Delaware County Board of supervisors
stated their intention
to frack the NYC watershed, drinking water for 7B people,
or demand the ridiculous sum of $81 B in reparations!
- At the last hearing like this, officials from NYC suggested a 7 miles well setback from aqueducts.
- Due to the presence of natural
faults and fractures which are due to micro seismic events,
common in this area. GOOD! even better.
- The NY State Constitution and the US Constitution guarantees equal protection of the law.
- If all watersheds in NY State got the same protections as NYC, there would be a 4000' from the state line.
NO REGULATIONS OF GAS PIPELINES OR COMPRESSOR STATONS!
- Some of the greatest quality of life impacts are from gas
pipelines, refineries, and compressor stations.
- NO ACTUAL REGULATIONS OF THIS INFRASTRUCTURE!
- "Pipe" is mentioned 7 times -- NONE ARE ABOUT GAS PIPELINES!
- 2 definitions water pipe (560.2(b)(25) /casing pipe (750-3.2(b)(6))
- 2 records/maps of flowback pipelines (560.3(c)(2)) (750-3.8(c)(6))
- 1 incident reporting (560.5(c))
- 2 record keeping of incoming water (750-3.8(c)(1) and flowback waste pipeline (560.5(g))
- "Compressor" is mentioned 2 times
- 560.3(a)(13) Required Information on the permit about connected pipelines
- 560.6(c)(29) Requirement for a "Reduced emissions completion"
- DEC should be Lead Agency and work with PSC
to create a comprehensive set of regulations for pipelines and
compressor stations.
NO MAGIC PEN EXISTS which can convert TOXIC WASTE into a BENEFICIAL PRODUCT!
- Yet, this is what the Regs attempt to do.
- 750-3.12 Disposal of HVHF wastewater
(a) All HVHF wastewater must be treated, recycled, or otherwise properly disposed through the life of the well in accordance with all applicable federal and state laws.
(b) The discharge of flowback to the ground is prohibited. The discharge of drilling fluids, formation fluids and production brine to the ground is prohibited, EXCEPT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF A B.U.D. (Beneficial Use Determination).
- We must Act
from the HEART, not just the HEAD :)
There are many more Dimensions to our Experience than our intellect.
- When
a
young
mother
is
deciding
what
kind
of food to give her baby,
she is NOT using peer-reviewed white papers as part of her decision making.
- She
is
using
sight,
sound,
smells,
taste,
all
of her senses, her memories,
her instincts
and YES her reason too.
- Science
in
the
Long
Term:
Anecdotal Evidence and Precautionary Principle in the Short Term
- Science
has
a
5-10
year
lag
time
for published papers and peer reviewed reports - This stuff is happening RIGHT NOW, we something more rapid in our
decision making
- In
the
short
term,
we
must
use
ANECDOTAL
DATA
- All citizens should enjoy a 4000'
setback from their watershed, i.e., a 4,000' setback from the State
Line.
This would be the equivalent of a
BAN ON FRACKING within New York State.
APPENDIX A: MLS FROM HELL: (Humorous look at a very real problem)
Our first listing! 1101 Carter Road, Dimock. Cute 3 bedroom ranch.
New construction. Utilities: all gas. Price: $XX,XXX -- YOU CAN'T BUY IT!
because it's NOT FOR SALE! (contaminated water due to gas drilling)
Just added! YOUR DREAM HOME! 3 bedroom split level, 1.5 bath, attached garage.
Beautiful Pipeline right-of-way amenity! You can't live here! It's not for sale!
(Water+Septic destroyed by pipeline)
Check this new listing! 224 Paradise Road, Terry Township, Bradford County.
Spacious 5 bedroom, 2 full baths. 3 car garage! New construction. Utilities: all gas.
Price: $XXX,XXX -- Don't you wish! YOU CAN'T BUY IT! because it's
ABANDONED and NOT FOR SALE!
APPENDIX B: 400,000 NY residents w/DRINKING WATER AT RISK NOW,
Despite the present moratorium. This is 2% of the state, 1:50.
NY Municipalities downstream from PA fracking operations: | ||||||
Painted Post | 1,811 | |||||
Corning | 11,187 | |||||
big flats | 7,224 | West of Waverly: | 59,565 | #includes ½ waverly | ||
horseheads | 6,461 | East of Waverly: | 128,436 | # includes ½ waverly | ||
elmira | 29,204 | # total number of Nyers living downstream of PA fracking operations: | ||||
lowman | 1,459 | 188,000 | ||||
waverly | 4,437 | |||||
nichols | 512 | |||||
owego | 3,890 | West of Waverly: | 59,565 | |||
apalachin | 1,131 | North of Angelica | 210,000 | |||
vestal | 28,043 | Total NY citizens dowsntream of Landfills taking PA drill
cuttings. |
||||
endicott | 13,285 | 269,565 | ||||
endwell | 11,446 | |||||
johnson city | 15,053 | Total NY citiznes downstream of either landfills
accepting PA drill cuttings or Fracking in PA |
||||
binghamton | 47,000 | 398,000 | ||||
kirkwood | 5,857 | * numbers do not sum perfectly due to some overlap | ||||
total | 188,000 |
Appendix C: Watershed Maps
Major NY - PA Watersheds:
1: Ohio River, 2: Susquehanna River + Potomoc River = Chesapeake Bay,
3: Delaware River, Delaware Bay, 4: Hudson River -> Bay of NY (Upper/Lower)
5: Great Lakes, Finger Lakes, St. Lawrence River
Fracking would potentially remove HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER
from these watersheds -- FOREVER, also introduce toxins and cut trees.
This could CLIMATE CHANGE in terms of Desertification.
cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertification
NYC and Syracuse Watersheds are high quality and thus deserve "special protections"
according to the proposed regulations.
All other NY watersheds get fracked, with small carvouts for principle aquifers.
(Note the SYR watershed is in Onongaga County, within the Oswego River Watershed)
If all persons in NY enjoyed Equal Protection of the Law, as guaranteed by the NY and US Constitutions,
then all watersheds in NY would get the same protections as NYC and SYR, i.e.,
there would be a 4,000' setback from the state line.
1: Ohio River, 2: Susquehanna River + Potomoc River = Chesapeake Bay,
3: Delaware River, Delaware Bay, 4: Hudson River -> Bay of NY (Upper/Lower)
5: Great Lakes, Finger Lakes, St. Lawrence River
Fracking would potentially remove HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF GALLONS OF WATER
from these watersheds -- FOREVER, also introduce toxins and cut trees.
This could CLIMATE CHANGE in terms of Desertification.
cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertification
NYC and Syracuse Watersheds are high quality and thus deserve "special protections"
according to the proposed regulations.
All other NY watersheds get fracked, with small carvouts for principle aquifers.
(Note the SYR watershed is in Onongaga County, within the Oswego River Watershed)
If all persons in NY enjoyed Equal Protection of the Law, as guaranteed by the NY and US Constitutions,
then all watersheds in NY would get the same protections as NYC and SYR, i.e.,
there would be a 4,000' setback from the state line.
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